Friday, July 08, 2005

Iraq & Terrorism Linked Again

Ol' BC recognizes that the Bush bashers continue to try to separate the Iraq situation and the battle against terror in the world. However, the Iraqi government's chief spokesman reiterated the connection in this AP article.

Speaking about Thursday's blasts in London that killed more than 50 people,
Laith Kubba said "we don't know exactly who carried out these acts but it is
clear that these networks used to be in Afghanistan and now they work in Iraq."


"We don't know exactly who enters Iraq then leaves to carry out attacks with explosives around the world," he told The Associated Press.

It will be interesting to see if this gets any network news play. There's a good chance that Admiral Ted Kennedy of the SS Oldsmobile will reconfirm for all of us shortly that there is no connection between Iraq and the war on terror.

It really doesn't matter if one supports the Iraq effort or not. It has long been known by those in Iraq that the nutso Islamic extremists have worked out of that country in varying degrees for years and years.

Just an observation.

13 Comments:

At 1:51 PM, Blogger Ben said...

hmmm, any chance the MSM picks up on this> I don't see the temperature of hell dropping and pigs aren't in the air so I guess not.

 
At 3:17 PM, Blogger Ol' BC said...

You got that right!! It will surely get picked up along the way somewhere though.

 
At 7:55 PM, Blogger Sir Loin of Beef said...

Of course there are terrorists in Iraq. There are terrorists in England, the United States of America, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Spain, Egypt, Iran, India, and elsewhere. What's the point? Does that mean we invade them all?

Just because terrorists operate in Iraq is not justification for war. The war against terror is not winnable. As we have seen, it only creates further acts of aggression. You think this is going to stop any time soon? I'll talk to you in another five years...

 
At 10:14 AM, Blogger Ol' BC said...

You're missing the point. It's the Bush bashers perpetual "there's no connection" argument that is being shot down. Even those of us who aren't huge Bush fans can see the connection. I just don't think the media and some in Congress want to acknowledge it.

 
At 2:33 PM, Blogger Sir Loin of Beef said...

Who cares? So they're right! What difference does it make? 9/11 has no connection with the war in Iraq. Just because there are terrorists in a country does not equate to a connection to 9/11 or Afghanistan or Osama bin Laden, nor does it equate to justification for war.

So, is all you are saying, "There is a connection, admit it MSM,"? I mean, if this is your point, then it is lame at best. Essentially you are nose thumbing about a thing that, taken for what it's worth, means nothing, justifies nothing, and accounts for--- guess what--- nothing.

 
At 8:54 PM, Blogger Sir Loin of Beef said...

Oh, and just for the record, just because I take issue with a point doesn't mean I missed the point. I would like it if I wasn't constantly assumed to be incapable of understanding what are not terribly complex "observations" and "points".

 
At 11:12 PM, Blogger TripleNeckSteel said...

Loin,

Are you a satire troll, or just an idiot who can't read?

If you could read, you'd know that a Clinton appointee to the Federal bench has ruled that Iraq provided material assistance to al-Qaeda. Sorry, pal- burden of proof met in Federal court. I'd say that's a connection.

Then there's the fascinating Ahmed Hikmat Shakir, who is a clear connection between Iraq and the 9/11 hijackers themselves. You'd have to be exceedingly stupid to be unaware of these connections.
Maybe you don't want to know this stuff, but the people who want America to win do.
Whether the myriad and practically innumerable connections to terror were part of Saddam's policy, or the work of rogue elements within his government is immaterial-- yes, we should fight every country that supports Islamism and its terrorist practitioners.

Every dog has his day, remember?

 
At 1:45 PM, Blogger Sir Loin of Beef said...

Fight on, then, dude. I deny nothing, really. You would have to be completely stupid to think the war against terror is winnable with war and continued violence.

Terrorists are disenfranchised people. They welcome violence. Violence only begets violence. Osama bin Laden got just what he wanted; a chnace to blow the hell out of Americans on his soil.

Now, the real point everyone seems to be missing is that it doesn't matter one good god-damn where the terrorists are. Until you figure out how to take away their initiatives and their reasons for wanting to destroy us, they will continue to attempt to kill us.

This is not a matter of killing them all and taking away their fucking weapons. They can make a bomb out of junk under the kitchen sink if they want. And they will continue to create more weapons that will continue to blow up innocent civilians until we ask ourselves: Why? And then answer the fucking question with peaceful resolution as opposed to further violence.

Has the world lost its fucking mind, or does the whole of humanity think that by killing each other we will stop killing each other? Makes a lot of sense to me...

 
At 4:21 PM, Blogger TripleNeckSteel said...

Loin,

Your problem is that you have absolutely zero historical perspective. Go read the 3 holy texts of Islam, and then study the history of Jihad, and maybe you'll have an argument against militarily destroying any nation that harbors them. You also need to read a few reputable studies on terrorists themselves- they are the opposite of "disenfranchised peoples", you twit. You left out the real reason for the war being waged against the civilized world by Islam-- the Koran. That's the "reason" you're going to have to take away from them. Frankly, your contention that terrorists only act out of a sense of "disenfranchisement" is rather racist-- don't you thnk they're capable of having their own reasons, and not simply reacting to our presence?

As a wise man once said,

"Peace sells...but who's buying?"

 
At 8:08 AM, Blogger Sir Loin of Beef said...

Oh dear. I can see that I have been completely misunderstood. Never mind. I am not even going to attempt to explain myself. I am done here. It was foolish of me to return and post at all. Ha! Oh well...

 
At 1:21 PM, Blogger Ben said...

sir, tell me were Nazism, Facism, Communism, etc beat peacefully? Remember Neville Chamberlin "Peace in our time!" Obviously thats what you want us to do. The war on terror is winnable and we need to keep at it. When people blow themselves up and kill civilians in the name of religion there is NO REASONING WITH THEM! They must be killed and not only them but their entire bloodline. Wipe out the extremeists and problem solved. But I forgot we obviously cannot judge...

 
At 11:49 PM, Blogger TripleNeckSteel said...

And another thing:

Enough of this "War on Terror" bullshit-- it's a war on Islamism.

 
At 1:16 PM, Blogger Ben said...

tripleneckedsteel, I agree with you on that its just that no one has the balls to come out and say it.

 

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