Saturday, June 25, 2005

Now Presbyterians...

...are recommending parents remove their children from public schools this article reports.

This week, the Presbyterian Church in America voted to receive a personal
resolution encouraging Christian parents to remove their children from the
public schools and see to it that they receive a thoroughly Christian

Ol' BC is flabbergasted. Awestruck. And somewhat perplexed. I know Baptists had made this recommendation, but I always saw the Presbyterians out there with the Methodists, much closer to the secular socialists. Has the public school system in this country fallen that far? Of course it has. There is virtually no discipline allowed. Teachers are expected to try to teach in chaos in many cases. Spending money hasn't helped. Morals are not taught because some secularist may sue citing a religious background to moral values.

But when the Presbyterians balk, normal Americans better stop and take a good hard look. Before it's too late. Before the moral fiber that's held this country together for over two centuries is completely unraveled.

Just a thought.


At 1:38 PM, Blogger Sir Loin of Beef said...

It is my opinion and observation that morality is not taught, it is learned. That is to say, we do not teach morality. We live morality. No one is taught morality and nods to himself about the wrongness or rightness of certain actions. We learn morality by simply observing the moral nature of those around us. Morality is a societal phenomenon that is particular to locale.

I was "taught" morality in school, but I learned much more than I was ever taught about how to act in respect to my localized societal community.

Quite frankly the public school system has no jurisdiction when it comes to "teaching" morality. Kids will learn from teachers by the way the teachers themselves act. When teachers are kind, generally speaking, so will the children be. Kids do not learn anything from discipline but how to enact it. And so it goes...

We can all beat our children into the ground, but will they learn anything from this action save how to beat others?

Do we remember what it was like to be parents and have our children mimic our every act? This is teaching, and this is at the heart of learning.

If the Presbyterians have removed their kids from school, then good for them! Is this a commentary on the education system? Not really. It is a comment on the fact that lines are being drawn in the sand as to what is and is not morally acceptable.

Morality is subjective. There are no universal moral laws that I can think of, therefore moral argument will continue, regardless of their supposed "venues". The presbyterians have their views, the teachers have theirs. Neither one is right or wrong. It is a choice and nothing more.

It is better, in my thinking, that they have their own way of teaching morality, as opposed to saying that the public schools must become forums for moral brow-beating, as if we were all supposed to share the same moralistic viewpoint. Viva la difference!

At 3:31 AM, Blogger RightWingRocker said...

Teaching morality: Lead by example. Nothing else needs be said about it.

Discipline is a whole lot more important that you seem to believe, Beef. Take it from a school teacher.

The problem is that many teachers and/or administrators teach discipline in a way that only benefits themselves, rather than using the opportunity to teach discipline in a way that benefits the student as well.

Discipline is one of the most important skills a student can learn, as it applies to every aspect of life.


At 7:19 AM, Blogger Sir Loin of Beef said...

You are mistaking what I meant by discipline. Yes, discipline in the sense of disciplining oneself to meet a goald is important. However, disciplining children with corporal punishment, which is what I was referring to, does nothing but teach children how to do it to their children. Take it from a kid and a dad and a teacher.

They spanked the shit out of me in school, but I did what I wanted anyway, just as every kid does, each in accordance with his own inner moral compass.

At 11:39 PM, Blogger Col. Hogan said...

I'm not sure how much better baptist or presbo morality is than that which they try to teach in government schools--maybe a little. I wrote a very brief note on morality on my site April 26th.

The real reason all parents should get their kids out of government schools is to that they can education.

Government schools are child abuse.

At 11:02 AM, Blogger Sir Loin of Beef said...

This reminds me of a french family who raised their girl at home with no schooling. This girl grew up to be the first woman to ever cross the pacific ocean in a canoe.

I think what schools teach is how to be a nonentity and fit into a system that de-humanizes us. We are taught to desire money and things and to do whatever it takes to get them. All education is geared toward making money as an adult, that or how to program kids to work in the factories for the rest of their lives.

I would like to see my kids learn a different path...


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